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        Understanding JCBA Negotiations

        July 30, 2025 13:00

        This message is for both pre-merger Alaska and Hawaiian Flight Attendants

        • JCBA negotiations aim to create a new contract from two existing agreements, rather than improving an existing one
        • Our JNC will be conducting targeted surveys for specific contract sections and considers feedback from MEC Committee Chairs and Members
        • The goal is to negotiate a contract that incorporates the best aspects of both carriers, providing improvements that benefit all Flight Attendants

        JCBA vs. Regular Contract Negotiations: What’s the Difference?

        There are important differences between Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement (JCBA) negotiations and standard “Section 6” negotiations under the Railway Labor Act. This message outlines how JCBA negotiations work—and what you can expect.

        Regular Section 6 Contract Negotiations

        Most of you are familiar with Section 6 negotiations, which are used to update and negotiate your carrier’s Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA). Here’s how that process typically works:

        • Survey First: Before bargaining begins, the Negotiating Committee (NC) sends out a survey to all members to gather input on priorities on existing contract provisions.
        • Comparison and Strategy: The NC looks at recent gains by other Flight Attendant groups and compares contract terms across the industry.
        • Proposal Development: This information helps AFA create initial proposals for management—our roadmap for negotiations.  Management also brings wanted changes forward.
        • Negotiation Flow: Talks usually begin with non-economic sections and sections both sides agree don’t need changes. Tentative agreements are communicated to members along the way.
        • If Talks Stall: Either side can ask the National Mediation Board (NMB) for help. If mediation fails, AFA can request a “Proffer of Arbitration,” which may eventually lead to a 30-day cooling-off period—and the legal right to strike.

        All of this is governed by Section 6 of the Railway Labor Act. However, JCBA negotiations follow a very different process.

        JCBA Negotiations

        Here’s how JCBA talks differ from regular negotiations:

        • Not Section 6 Negotiations: Because our contracts are not amendable, we fall outside the regular Section 6 process and don’t have all of the above avenues under the Railway Labor Act.  However, the NMB can provide mediation/facilitation services if requested.
        • Creating One Contract from Two: Instead of improving a single contract, JCBA talks are about building an entirely new agreement from two existing contracts—each with its own culture, policies, rules, and operational concerns adding complexity to the process.
        • Different Survey Process: Because it wasn’t possible to capture the entirety of both contracts in one survey, the Joint Negotiating Committee (JNC) will send targeted “subject matter” surveys on specific contract sections. These will also help educate members on both carriers’ current provisions.
        • Input Matters: Besides survey feedback, the JNC also considers input and advice from committee chairs, and member emails, comments, and concerns when making decisions.

        The Framework: Merger Transition Protocol Agreement (MTPA)

        JCBA negotiations are guided by the MTPA, which outlines where and how often the JNC and management meet and other related details. The MTPA also establishes two main approaches:

        • Adopt-and-Go: Use an entire section from one contract as-is.
        • Modify-and-Adopt: Take a section from one contract, modify it, and include it in the new agreement.

        Because the JCBA will likely last beyond current amendable dates of the Alaska and Hawaiian CBAs, the JNC is also pushing for improvements that go beyond both current contracts. Industry comparisons play a key role in setting these goals.

        Balancing Two Contracts

        In consultation with the Master Executive Council (MEC), the JNC evaluates and compares each section from both contracts—like Sick Leave, Vacation, Open Time, and Training. These provisions often differ significantly between carriers. The JNC’s job is to find solutions that work best for the combined membership.

        Subject-matter survey results help guide these choices.

        Expect more information on surveys soon as the JNC tackles major contract sections.

        Merged Seniority List

        Under AFA’s Constitution and Bylaws, the merged seniority list is based on Flight Attendant date-of-hire. A joint committee of Flight Attendants from both airlines – under the guidance of the AFA International Secretary-Treasurer – verifies with documentation and with individual Flight Attendants – all training and hire dates and integrates them according to date-of-hire.

        Until a JCBA is finalized (which could take 2+ years), here’s what you can expect per the provisions of the MPTA:

        • Hawaiian and Alaska Flight Attendants will continue to operate separately and on their own operation’s aircraft
        • No cross-flying between airlines
        • Hawaiian widebody aircraft will be flown to Asia and Australia/New Zealand, etc. by Hawaiian Flight Attendants
        • Bases and pairings will stay separate
        • Alaska Flight Attendants will continue to receive higher pay rates and boarding pay

        While having control of the merged seniority list does give AFA significant leverage in these negotiations, there will also be pressure on the parties to combine the operation so that all members can work and take advantage of the entire, combined operation, receive higher pay, and transfer freely between bases- but the JNC will move at a pace that protects your contract rights and prioritizes improvements for all.

        Looking Ahead

        JCBA talks will involve tough decisions. The JNC will keep members informed and involved, working closely with MEC leaders every step of the way. Your feedback and engagement are vital.

        The JNC is committed to negotiating a contract that reflects the best of both carriers—with improvements over and above those provisions that will benefit all Flight Attendants.

        Filed Under: AFA News Now, Joint Negotiating Committee (JNC) Tagged With: joint contract negotiations, Joint Negotiating Committee (JNC), pmAS, pmHA

        Section 29 Profit Sharing and Retirement – Vesting Schedule 401(K) Company Match [JCBA]

        March 24, 2018 14:33

        Q. Can you please explain accelerated vesting to me under Sec 29 C. #3?  Aren’t you 100% vested after 5 years service as a fa? If so, why is there a need for #3?  Unless correct me if I am wrong an example -an FA is in the job for 2 years but worked for the company in a different position for 10 years and at 61 1/2 they would get full vesting but if less than 60 years, or less than 10 years, would only be vested at 40% for her 2 years as a FA. Am I understanding correctly?

        A. Section 29 of the L-AS CBA: Profit Sharing and Retirement specifies in  29.C. what is the vesting schedule for a Flight Attendant’s 401(k) company matching contributions.  This schedule is based on years of service as a Flight Attendant (often referred to as Occupational Seniority). A Flight Attendant is fully vested (100%) at five (5) or more years of service as a Flight Attendant (of Occupational Seniority).

         

        The language in Section 29.D. references when a Flight Attendant may receive accelerated vesting in their 401(k) company matching contributions.  Specifically number three (29.D.3.) states that when a Flight Attendant has prior company service with Alaska Airlines and is either 60 or 611/2 years of age, then s/he would have accelerated vesting and her/his Company Seniority of either (12 or 10 years respectively) would allow her/him to be 100% vested.  

         

        1.  ACCELERATED VESTING

         

        A Member will be fully vested and have a non-forfeitable interest in the balance credited to her/his Matching Contributions Account if:

         

        • The employee becomes medically disabled; or
        • The employee retires at or after age sixty-five (65); or

         

        • The employee retires at or after age sixty (60) with a minimum twelve (12) years of service with the Company Seniority, or at or after age sixty-one and one-half (611⁄2) and a minimum of ten (10) years of service with the Company Seniority.”

        In your scenario above  if a Flight Attendant had worked for 2 years (2 years of Occupational Seniority) and had prior company service but was either younger than 60/61 or did not have 12/10 years of Company Seniority then s/he  would only be 40% vested in tthe 401k company matching contributions.

         

        Note:  A Flight Attendant is always 100% vested in her/his personal 401(k) contributions.

        Filed Under: JNC Blog

        Healthcare Insurance: Premiums 3 [JCBA]

        March 12, 2018 20:08

        [See also Healthcare Insurance: Premiums [JCBA] and Healthcare Insurance: Premiums 2 [JCBA]]

        Q:     My concern is the TA clause regarding healthcare insurance premiums frozen at the 2019 rates. To my understanding, the clause has no bearing or protection regarding the $1500 the Company gives to the employee Health Savings Account (HSA) to assist with the high deductible plan. So technically the Company could rescind that amount starting in 2019 if this TA passes, and the high deductibles would be completely the responsibility of the employee. The $1500 is not a contractual item.  Currently we have protection and a cap on what our premiums can increase each year, which I believe is 20% for 2019. With this TA our premiums would be frozen at the 2019 rate, not our current 2018 rate.  If I run the numbers, it would be to my benefit to have my premiums increase even to the max of 20% verses having the Company rescind the $1500 they award to our HSA. Premiums notoriously increase each year and if our premiums are frozen, the Company’s share will increase. With that said, I don’t see the Company still giving money to help with the high deductibles. The Company will have to make up their share of increased premiums somewhere, and rescinding the $1500 would be the obvious as it is not contractual and just out of the goodness of the Company’s heart.

        A:     The Company contribution to the Health Savings Account (HSA) has historically been and will remain management discretion under the TA. The Company has been providing annual financial incentives to move employees over to the high deductible plan by contributing to the HSA when employees switch to (or, depending on the year, are simply enrolled in) the high deductible plan. The year-on-year cap is 15%, so the 2019 healthcare insurance rates cannot increase more than 15% from 2018 (not 20% as indicated in the question). Additionally, the Flight Attendant cost share cannot be more than 20% of the actual cost to the Company. If management were to eliminate the HSA contribution, it would have to do that for all employees. This in turn would disincent employees from switching to (or remaining on) the high deductible plan, which is the exact opposite of management’s goal to migrate as many employees as possible from the higher cost PPO to the lower cost high deductible plan.

        Filed Under: JNC Blog

        VX “Red Circled” Pay Rates: Pay Rates vs. Competitive Bidding Seniority [JCBA]

        March 3, 2018 19:38

        Q:     To my understanding, some Virgin FAs were allowed to keep their Company seniority for pay/vacation/line bidding if they transferred from CSA to FA. Some of those new hire FAs who just came online are currently making more money than me. I’ve been flying for close to 5 years and some are barely going into their 4th month. I’m trying to understand the ‘freezing’ part of the contract. How will they be merged when it comes to bidding? Will they still keep their 8 years even though they came online in November? Or will they merge with current 4-5 month L-AS FAs? Hope this makes sense.

        A:     See the following.

        “I’m trying to understand the ‘freezing’ part of the contract.

        Virgin America has had several different Company policies for transfers into InFlight over its history, including differing policies for pay and bidding. Generally speaking, L-VX FAs have their pay rate determined by Company Seniority and their bidding order determined by Occupational (Flight Attendant) Seniority. Consequently, a 4 month L-VX FA who has 8 years of Company Seniority (due to a transfer from GST/CSA to FA) has the Year 8 FA pay rate but bids as a 4 month FA. The VX “Red Circled” Pay Rates LOA allows those FAs to continue receiving Year 8 Alaska FA pay until their Occupational Seniority exceeds their Company Seniority as it was on the date of ratification of the TA.

        How will they be merged when it comes to bidding?

        Shorter approximately correct answer: They will be merged in with the current 4-5 month L-AS FAs for the purposes of line bidding, vacation bidding, etc.

        Longer more technically correct answer: The Seniority Merger Integration Committee (SMIC) will merge the lists together using a fair and equitable application codified in Section X [Merger Policy…] of the AFA Constitution & Bylaws; no adjustment to relative seniority may occur with respect to others on one’s pre-merger carrier seniority list. Eligible L-AS FAs will receive the appropriate credit for time spent in Initial Training prior to merging the lists together. Specific questions about competitive bidding seniority integration should be directed to the SMIC: seniority@afacwa.org.

        Filed Under: JNC Blog

        Productivity Premium Program (PPP) [JCBA]

        February 18, 2018 19:34

        Q:     Am I reading it correctly that under the new plan unpaid vacation and PTO would be included for the purpose of earning bonuses or am I missing something?

        A:     Yes! Paid vacation (included Longevity PTO) and unpaid vacation will count towards achieving the PPP at 4.0 TFP per day.

         

        Q:     As the quarterly productivity premium is now paid quarterly, how will the new program be paid?

        A:     It will be paid on the 20th paycheck following the appropriate PPP incentive period. This is an improvement from the QPP, which is paid on the 5th paycheck two months following the quarter.

        QPP:

        • Q1 (Jan, Feb, Mar) – $500 paid 05/05,
        • Q2 (Apr, May, Jun) – $500 paid 08/05,
        • Q3 (Jul, Aug, Sep)  – $1000 paid 11/05, and
        • Q4 (Oct, Nov, Dec) – $500 paid 02/05

        PPP:

        • June – $350 paid 07/20,
        • July – $350 paid 08/20,
        • Aug – $350 paid 09/20,
        • “Block of 8” (Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Sep, Oct, Nov) – $1100 paid 12/20, and
        • December – $350 paid 01/20.

         

        Q:     Will you do a comparison of the QPP and the PPP and the significant differences?

        A:     Sure!

        QPP: Based on a calendar quarter application (Q1: Jan, Feb, Mar; Q2: Apr, May, Jun; Q3: Jul, Aug, Sep; Q4: Oct, Nov, Dec) and requires your Worked TFP to be at least 0.1 TFP more than your combined monthly PBS bid award equivalent across that calendar quarter. Sick leave and vacation are excluded from achieving the QPP. Payout is $500 for Q1, Q3 and Q4; $1000 for Q3.

        PPP: Based on the defined period (Combined block of 8 months: Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Sep, Oct, Nov; 4 individual months: Jun, Jul, Aug, Dec) and requires your Worked TFP to be at least 40.0 TFP more than your combined monthly PBS bid award equivalent across that block of 8 months (average 5.0 TFP per month) or at least 5.0 TFP more than your monthly bid award equivalent in June, July, August and December. Vacation is now included in achieving the PPP (and sick leave is still excluded). Payout is $1100 for the block of 8 months is $350 for each month of June, July, August and December.

         

        Q:     Why is the PPP based on the base line average instead of the individual line average?

        A:     The PPP is based on an individual Flight Attendant’s bid award–the same criteria as the current QPP program. One can make arguments either way for the benefits of an individual line average versus the domicile line average. AFA and management did not change that aspect of the incentive criteria.

         

        Q:      I am seeking understanding why the QPP was changed from quarterly to create the PPP with 4 single high impact months and an 8-month block. Vacation counting towards PPP is better than how it is currently with QPP. However, one now has to fly 5.0 TFP more (60 TFP total for the year) for the PPP instead of 0.1 TFP more in each quarter for the QPP. Why have we lost the flexibility of being able to do our extra flying over a quarter and have now in essence made it harder in single months?

        A:     AFA sought to change the QPP so that vacation counted towards achieving the payout. Management agreed but sought to increase the threshold from 0.1 TFP to 5.0 TFP for each month, inclusive of vacation.

        Considering even the most junior FA has at least 14 days of vacation at 4.0 TFP per day, that equals 56.0 TFP of vacation credit for the year that now counts towards achieving the PPP. That leaves a difference of only 4.0 TFP to make up for the entire year–and that is before you count in any other pick-up, Sit Pay, ADPG, ground delay, block delay, Stranded Pay, etc. This doesn’t seem like an unreasonable trade-off when one considers that all FAs with 5 years or more of Occupational Seniority have at least 21 days of vacation that equals at least 84.0 TFP more of vacation credit that will now count towards achieving the PPP.

        It may be more challenging for some to achieve PPP in the single months, but it will be much easier for others. It really depends on where your vacation days are located within the year.

        Filed Under: JNC Blog

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