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    You are here: Home / Negotiations / Contract 2014 Negotiations Blog / Q&A: How is my 480 Credit impacted by the Minimum Pay Rules?

    Q&A: How is my 480 Credit impacted by the Minimum Pay Rules?

    November 11, 2014 17:15

    How do the Minimum Pay Rules in TA2 impact my pay and 480 credit?

    Duty Period Minimum (DPM):

    This is the same provision we have in place today that guarantees you will receive a minimum of 4.0 TFP per for each duty period in a pairing.  Today, if the raw or hard value of a sequence is less than 4.0 TFP, it gets paid a minimum of 4.o TFP.

    Example:  A SEA- GEG turn has a raw/hard TFP value of 2.0 (1.0 TFP per leg), but with the DPM applied, you are paid 4.0 TFP and 4.0 TFP is credited towards your 480 threshold calculation.

    Average Duty Period Guarantee (ADPG):

    This provision ensures a Flight Attendant will receive a minimum of 5.0 TFP times the number of duty periods.  Turns flown today that are worth anywhere from 4.o-4.9 are paid and credited towards 480 as such.  However, under the TA, all of these will be paid a minimum of 5.0 TFP  if flown. That has a great positive impact on your pay and 480 application.

    Example:  You are awarded a line of 18 – 4.0tfp turns (18 x 4.0 TFP) = 72 TFP line award, if you fly your turns, 18 turns (duty periods) x 5.0 TFP (ADPG) = 90 TFP.  In this example, you will be paid 90 TFP instead of the 72.0 TFP awarded and you will get 90 TFP that month towards your 480 requirement.

    Multi-Day Sequence Minimum (MSM):

    This provision applies to sequences that are 3 or more calendar days but have fewer duty periods than the number of calendar days.  These types of sequences will be paid a minimum of 4.0 TFP per calendar day.  These are typically the pairings that span midnight on the last day of the trip.  These values are included in the pairings when constructed and are paid if flown, calling in sick, etc…

    Example:  You are awarded a 3 day trip containing only 2 duty periods (Day 1: PDX- ANC, Day 2: ANC-PDX, releasing in  PDX early AM on Day 3)  this trip has a raw/hard TFP value of (4.2 + 4.2 = 8.4 TFP), but with the MSM applied, you are paid (4.0 TFP x 3 days = 12.0 TFP.  In this example, today, you would be paid and credited for 8.4 TFP but in TA2, you will be paid 12.0 TFP and credited 12.0 TFP towards your 480 requirement.

    Extended Overnight Rule:

    This provisions applies to sequences that have no duty from 0100 to 2300 which triggers an additional 4.0 TFP to be calculated into the sequence total value.

    Example:  You are awarded a 3 day sequence (Day 1: PDX-OGG arrives at 22:55, Day 2: departs at 23:55 OGG-PDX  releasing in PDX at 07:27 on Day 3.  This trip has a raw/hard TFP value of (6.8 + 6.8 = 13.6 TFP), but there is no duty from 22:55 to 23:55 so the EOR would apply.  With the EOR applied, you will paid (6.8 + 4.0 (EOR) + 6.8 = 17.6 TFP).  In this example, today you would be paid and credited 13.6 TFP, but in TA2, you will be paid 17.6 TFP and 17.6 TFP will be credited towards your 480 requirement.

    Sit Pay:  This provision applies to any scheduled or actual ground time that exceeds 2 hours between flights.  You will be paid 1.0 TFP unless stranded pay applies.

    Example: A LAX-SEA turn worth 5.6 TFP is constructed with a 2:35 minute sit time or the same LAX-SEA turn was constructed with a 1:45 minute sit, but you block in 20 minutes early creating an actual sit of 2:05, then Sit Pay would apply and you would receive (5.6 + 1.0 Sit Pay = 6.6 TFP).  In this example, today, you will be paid and credited 5.6 TFP, but in TA2, you will be paid 6.6 TFP if flown and 6.6 TFP will be credited towards your 480 requirement.

    Minimum Pay Rules help us achieve our 480 worked TFP for the year. Keep in mind the only place the 480 needs to be worked TFP is for vacation accrual. For benefits, 480 includes worked, vacation (even if not earned)/PTO and sick, all other applications it is worked TFP plus vacation/PTO.

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    Comments

    1. Amy Williams says

      November 12, 2014 at 13:51

      When will our compensation for Minimum Pay Rules go into effect? Would they begin December 17? Also, will the 480 for vacation accrual begin next year? So a “soft” 480 flown in 2014 will have no bearing on 2015?

      • Jake Jones (SEA LEC Vice President/Negotiating Committee Member) says

        November 12, 2014 at 17:01

        Hi Amy,

        A implementation schedule will be given to the members soon. Currently the MPRs would be paid once they are implemented, no later than March 2015. The 480 requirements in 2014, for 2015 accruals will be based on the current agreement. If the TA ratifies you will have new requirements for 2015 (Jan-Dec) for 2016 accruals. Thank you for emailing the committee for clarification on this question.

    2. Lisa Beauchamp says

      November 11, 2014 at 20:51

      My concern is how and who will track all of this? will there be an overall ” hard time worked” calculator that wont include vacation and sick leave? Because I can see this being confusing to keep track of. Can we make sure that we do have a more accurate TFP Calculator?

      • Jeffrey Peterson (MEC President) says

        November 12, 2014 at 13:33

        The intent is to have an improved 480 TFP tracker that will show the various applications. This has already been discussed with management.

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