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        You are here: Home / Negotiations / Contract 2014 Negotiations Blog / Q&A: Can a management flier come onboard and replace me on a pairing?

        Q&A: Can a management flier come onboard and replace me on a pairing?

        November 10, 2014 07:53

        A: NO. Management expressed a strong interest in having FA managers experience our jobs first hand so they could understand the difficulties of our work environment and hopefully drive improvements.

        While management wanted them on as minimum crew, we pushed to have them be an extra. Having them on as a minimum crew would potentially put more stress and work on the other two or three FA crewmembers. If the manager is an extra, you will get the additional help. The manager will have the lowest “seniority” on the crew and if mutually agreeable, you may trade positions.

        Remember, the manager flier will be on the aircraft as working crew to fully experience our job and assist – NOT to observe and discipline us. It will be important to point out difficulties, suggest improvements and have them really get to know our job duties and the “extra position.” The following provisions will govern Management Flying:

        • The manager must work a scheduled sequence, out of a FA domicile, as the D on a 3-person crew and an E on a 4-person crew.
        • The scheduled sequence may only be broken at a SIP.
        • Will be considered a working crewmember and must follow all requirements in the FAM and all limitations in the applicable sections of our CBA (e.g. duty and rest provisions).
        • No single-source discipline may result from the manager’s presence on the sequence
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        Comments

        1. SueEllen Timpe says

          November 14, 2014 at 21:50

          Will The extra PLANNED Management jumpseat info be “advanced” posted in PET for those traveling as an NR or Commuter? Obviously that would not happen with last minute issues, however, if the trip was planned as a work trip, what time frame would they be entered into the PET system for Jumpseat info availability?

          • Jeffrey Peterson (MEC President) says

            November 14, 2014 at 23:04

            There is no anticipated change from today’s practice in regards to how extra working flight attendants on the jumpseat are treated and the management fliers would be handled in a similar application. That is, the management fliers would not be posted or declared in PET nor would the fact that a jumpseat is being taken out of potential non-rev inventory. Jumpseat availability is not currently reflected in PET.

            Based on the current size of the group, the 70 or so management fliers allowed under TA2 is anticipated as a relatively small impact to jumpseat availability. Compare that number to the over 500 or so Reserves system-wide (who are often placed on the jumpseat as extras) or the approximately similar number of registered commuters (and a larger number if one takes into consideration non-registered commuters) who currently occupy jumpseats on a regular basis.

            The listing of the management flier as an extra on the jumpseat could occur days out or as close in as shortly before departure.

          • SueEllen Timpe says

            November 15, 2014 at 09:22

            Thank YOU

        2. Pam Stenerson says

          November 10, 2014 at 10:10

          In full uniform also??

          • Jake Jones (SEA LEC Vice President/Negotiating Committee Member) says

            November 11, 2014 at 09:06

            The manager onboard should be in full uniform. However, there are exceptions. e.g. cancellation, non rev FA working flight.

        3. Shannon Hyde says

          November 10, 2014 at 08:23

          What do you mean by “single source” discipline?

          • Jake Jones (SEA LEC Vice President/Negotiating Committee Member) says

            November 11, 2014 at 09:10

            Single source discipline refers to when only one person (a single source) is used in determining the discipline.

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