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    You are here: Home / Negotiations / Contract 2014 Negotiations Blog / Q&A: We hear that provisions are contingent on 4k and 15 min debrief, why does management want this?

    Q&A: We hear that provisions are contingent on 4k and 15 min debrief, why does management want this?

    December 5, 2014 10:48

    Here is management’s response:

    Jeff,

    I appreciate the opportunity to respond to your question and to clarify the reasons both provisions remain important to us.

    It has been our goal throughout these negotiations to improve productivity.  Our belief is that we should have rates of pay that rank high within the industry along with the industry’s highest productivity.  That is a long-term sustainable formula for AS and has been a principle we’ve advocated for in all recent CBAs we’ve negotiated.

    A second part of this philosophy is that any savings achieved through productivity are returned to the contract through our economic proposals and that was certainly the case in TA2.  We have always strived to have win-win solutions and understand that personal productivity of your flying needs to be important as well.  As much as we want to achieve productivity to position us well over the long-term, we are acutely aware of the need to balance quality of life.  We believe these provisions increase average TFP value per duty for FA’s which is consistent with increasing FA personal productivity.

    Both provisions provide value independent of the other.  The long turn language helps us today and in the future to maintain on a year-round basis markets that alternate between turns and 2-day trips and open up additional possibilities for mid-continent two leg single duty pairings from all bases in the future.  This is important as scheduled block times can fluctuate materially due to weather, air traffic control, hub airport congestion and other reasons.  The fifteen minute debrief would not resolve all of those issues in these markets.  With this provision we can build high-time, efficient turns for both the company and FA and because we understand they will not be for everyone they are optional (a point AFA was emphatic about at the table).

    The fifteen minute debrief helps produce more efficient pairings of all types, not just those that are long stage length in nature.  This should produce higher average value pairings during line building as well as provide better tools for close-in and day of scheduling issues.

    Shane Tackett

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    Comments

    1. Melanie Seymour says

      December 5, 2014 at 13:31

      At the Los Angeles morning road show it was mentioned that there is no language prohibiting how many pairings can be created that include a 4K day/s. Is it a possibility in the future (especially if new destinations get introduced) that a majority of our pairings include an extended duty day and, if so, how will we be protected by TA2 language ?

      Thanks for all your time,

      Melanie

      • Jake Jones (SEA LEC Vice President/Negotiating Committee Member) says

        December 5, 2014 at 14:28

        Hi Melanie,

        The protections are in the language and current domiciles. There are specific markets we have success in, other we are growing and Alaska is very conservative. There is the protection that if no one bids the pairings they go to OT, subsequently they would have to be assigned to reserves under 3 hours to check in which would increase reserve coverage. The 4k pairings not awarded go into OT and will not count towards the threshold. The current system and routes only create 5% overall pairings using 4k. New destinations which would qualify under 4k would potentially increase the overall percentage of pairings built. For protections and provisions review the language in Section 10.DD

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