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        You are here: Home / AS/VX Merger / JNC Blog / ROADSHOW Q&A – PDX

        ROADSHOW Q&A – PDX

        March 13, 2018 13:29

        03.09.2018

         

        [Note: These notes were recorded at the time of the roadshow and are presented as recorded. Any clarifications or edits that have been applied after the roadshows are indicated in strikeoutfont for deleted text and underlined font for added text. – Edited 03.13.2018 jtp]

         

        JCBA and four year medical leaves: Is this a law or did you negotiate this?

        This was something we negotiate for the FA group during these sessions.

         

        Why did we do an extension instead of waiting until going into Section 6?

        We actually see some benefit to an extension because if we did go into Section 6 we would be a work group divided by pay and work rules, so it is strategic planning to have all of us on the same contract.

         

        Well 2 years can turn into 4 years?

        Jeff went through the process from 1994 to explain the history and average negotiations is 1 to 2 years. And we can open a year early. Don’t see us opening up the whole book and to just target certain issues.

         

        What else did they (the Company) want?

        Their original stance was no improvements to the contract. They wanted a 4-year extension to 2023 and we ended up with a 2-year extension. They (the Company) wanted 5K, which meant they wanted to erode the 10.5 duty day. They also didn’t want this to be called a JCBA and wanted it called a Single CBA and we said no.

         

        How did the MEC vote to present this to us?

        A TA was presented to the LECP’s two times. The second presentation from the JNC the LECP’s unanimous voted “yes” to bring it to the membership for a vote.

         

        Is there a penalty if the Company doesn’t fulfill this?

        The board and shareholders are holding the company to fulfilling the complete merge.

         

        If this doesn’t pass would we be able to fly on Airbus or Boeing or can we fly together?

        No.

         

        Was there any discussion about bringing back FAs who were forced out after the one-year mark?

        No, it is unfortunate that this has happened but luckily we will be able to help those affected FAs in the future and now they will have a minimum of 4 years. In other words, management was unwilling to bring back FAs who left due to pressures from the one year MLOA policy. This is a go-forward application.

         

        LECP and MECP pay can they bid a line?

        Yes it doesn’t prohibit us from flying. LEC officers are really busy with the merger.

         

        According to parts of the contract shouldn’t they (VX FAs) have just merged into our contract?

        Technically they (VX) need to be on the Alaska seniority list and they are not. This is what forces the company to negotiate with us because they want us to be all under the seniority list.

         

        480 why wasn’t that addressed?

        We did fight for the 480. The fight isn’t over but we want to have VX FA’s on board for that fight. That’s hard to do if VX FAs do not have parity for pay and work rules.

         

        Do you need to fly 5 TFP each month to get your PPP in the block of eight months?

        You can fly it all in one month or it can be stretched out throughout the block.

         

        VX ITL pay is a 15% differential. Won’t VX lose out on pay?

        No. A VX ITL who continues to work “A” will not lose any money. Just like at Alaska when working B/C/D, a VX ITL (“A”) who works ITM (“B/C/D”) receives a different pay rate. If you compare apples to apples, every ITM working B/C/D will receive a pay increase and every ITL working A will receive a pay increase.

         

        So if a FA goes into management at VX and back to being a FA how does the “Red Circle” carve out work?

        It only applied to people that have been FA then gone into management or another area of the company and go back to being a FA and only applies until ratified. Actually they have stopped internal transfers at VX.

         

        Is there going to be a master bid?

        There are no plans to do that but nothing stops management for a forcing a base closure, but that is expensive for the company because they need to pay the cost of the moves.

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