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        You are here: Home / Archives for Council 47 LAX/SEA (pmHA)

        Council 47 LAX – LAX Worksheet Update

        December 23, 2025 07:00

        This message is for pre-merger Hawaiian Los Angeles Based Flight Attendants

        LAX Worksheet Update

        Aloha LAX,

        Many years ago, when our flying consisted of 1 to 2 pairings, a monthly worksheet was created as a quick reference to help members calculate items such as over duty times and drop times for the applicable pairing.

        As our base has grown and flying has evolved, there are now multiple pairings in any given month. With the addition of the SEA domicile to Council 47 in April and added flying, maintaining worksheets for every pairing and scenario is not sustainable.

        As a result, effective January 1, 2026, we have made the hard decision to suspend these worksheets. We know how frustrating this news can be, especially for members who have relied on these worksheets over the years. They were created to simplify a process that can feel overly technical, and we recognize the value they have provided.

        Below is a simplified cheat sheet to help you independently calculate your legalities, along with references to the applicable contract sections. We strongly encourage everyone to familiarize themselves with these calculations, especially in the event of an irregular operation.

        In Solidarity,

        Josh, Paul and Beth


        Over Duty

        Section 7.F.2.a.(2)

        When a Flight Attendant exceeds 14 hours on duty, they receive 1 hour of pay, but not credit, for each hour or fraction of an hour beyond 14 hours.

        Example:

        • Check in at 0700
        • 14 hours on duty is reached at 2100
        • Over duty begins at 2101
        • If your flight blocks in at 2046 plus :15 minutes, your first OVR14 hour begins at 2101

        Drop Time for Exceeding Duty

        TURNS SCHEDULED 14 HOURS OR LESS

        If your pairing is originally scheduled for 14 hours or less, your maximum on duty time is 16 hours.

        QUICK FORMULA:

        Check in + 16:00 hours = max duty

        To figure out drop time away from base:

        16 hours – scheduled return flight time – :15 minutes + :01 minute

        All in LDT – Local Domicile Time

        TURNS SCHEDULED ABOVE 14 HOURS (LAX Sideletter)

        THE RULE: When turns are scheduled above 14 hours, LAX is governed by the Sideletter duty extension.

        • Take the second flights printed arrival time
        • Add 2 hours
        • Subtract the second flights printed block time
        • Add 1 minute

        Example:

        Turn Flight 933/934
        Printed arrival time of Flight 934 is 21:30
        Add 2 hours = 23:30
        Minus block time of 5:15 = 18:15 plus (+) 1 minute

        Drop time is 18:16 LDT (local domicile time)

        To figure out drop time away from base:

        Second flights printed arrival time + 2:00 hrs − second flights printed block time + :01 minute = DROP TIME

        Filed Under: Council 47 LAX/SEA (pmHA) Tagged With: Council 47, pmHA

        Hawaiian Flight Attendant Seattle Domicile LOA Session #2 Virtual Roadshow Reminder

        December 17, 2025 13:00

        This message is for pre-merger Hawaiian Flight Attendants

        • The second session for the Seattle Domicile Letter of Agreement is scheduled for tomorrow, December 18, from 9 AM to 10:30 AM HT
        • All members in good standing should register for the webinar using a non-company email and review the SEA LOA Question and Answer prior to attending

        The Hawaiian Seattle Domicile Negotiating Committee is hosting the first of three virtual roadshows tomorrow to share information about the Seattle Domicile Letter of Agreement (SEA LOA).

        • Session #2 – Thursday, December 18, 2025 from 9 AM to 10:30 AM HT

        Webinar Reminders

        • All Members in good standing are welcome to join.
        • We encourage you to log on to the webinar early to verify your credentials and to ensure a prompt start
        • To register, please use a non-company email. Registration will close at the start of the webinar.
        • You may attend multiple sessions. Just fill out a separate registration form for each session you plan to join.
        • After you register, you’ll get a confirmation email with your unique link. Please keep this link private.

        SEA LOA Resources

        Please look over the SEA LOA Question and Answer section prior to attending the webinar, the information has been updated as of December 9. To make sure everyone gets the latest information, we may skip questions that have already been answered during the webinar. You may also submit your questions in advance using the registration form.

        Register for Additional Sessions

        • Session #3 – Sunday, January 11, 2026 from 2 PM to 3:30 PM HT

        If you have any questions or concerns, please contact your local leadership or email the SEA Domicile Negotiating Committee at sea@afahawaiian.org.

        Filed Under: AFA News Now, AS/HA Merger, Council 43 HNL, Council 47 LAX/SEA (pmHA) Tagged With: Council 43, Council 47, HA SEA Domicile, pmHA

        Council 47 LAX – Changes to Pairings

        December 16, 2025 07:00

        This message is for pre-merger Hawaiian Los Angeles Based Flight Attendants

        Addressing Changes to Flying and Pairings

        Over the past few days, your LEC officers have received feedback and concerns regarding recent changes to flying and pairing construction. We want to take a moment to acknowledge those sentiments and provide some clarity.

        First, it is important to be clear that AFA does not control pairing construction. Our role is to advocate on behalf of Flight Attendants, and we continue to do so at every opportunity available to us.

        Both HNL and LAX are experiencing adjustments in flying. This reflects how Alaska operates. Alaska does not maintain route loyalty in the way we at Hawaiian are used to. Aircraft are assigned where they make the most operational and financial sense, and that can shift at any time.

        Flight timing is also a significant factor. We have inherited flying that operates throughout the entire day, which is a departure from Hawaiian’s historical model where most arrivals and departures occurred within a narrow mid day window. Alaska runs a full day operation, and not all flight times can be built as turns. While turns are generally more efficient and preferred, some of the current flying simply does not allow for that structure.

        At our last weeks Joint Membership Meeting , the Negotiating Committee discussed the “pairing optimizer” a system Alaska uses. This system builds pairings based on multiple variables, including operational needs and profitability. While we are not fully integrated into that system yet, it is already being used in part, and its influence will grow as integration continues.

        We also want to acknowledge that while changes are frustrating, our current schedules, having a mix of turns and a variety of flying, is not forever guaranteed. As we move closer toward a JCBA, flying patterns may continue to evolve and could look very different than what we have today. If current changes feel challenging now, it is important to recognize that things can and likely will continue to shift.

        The harsh reality is that flying and pairings will continue to change as integration progresses. AFA will remain engaged and continue advocating for Flight Attendants, but some level of change should be expected.

        As always, we appreciate you sharing your feedback and encourage you to continue reaching out to your officers with questions or concerns.

        In Solidarity,

        Josh, Paul and Beth
        Council 47 LEC officers
        lax@afahawaiian.org

        Filed Under: Council 47 LAX/SEA (pmHA) Tagged With: Council 47, pmHA

        Hawaiian Flight Attendant Seattle Domicile LOA Session #1 Roadshow Recording

        December 10, 2025 10:10

        This message is for pre-merger Hawaiian Flight Attendants

        • The SEA LOA Roadshow Presentation is available for viewing, providing a comprehensive overview of the SEA LOA
        • The SEA LOA Q&A has been updated with the latest information and additional questions

        SEA LOA Session #1 Roadshow Presentation

        The Negotiating Committee has recorded the Seattle Domicile Letter of Agreement (SEA LOA) Presentation for viewing. This presentation will give a comprehensive overview of the SEA LOA.

        Question and Answer Update

        The SEA LOA Question and Answer Post on AFA News Now has been updated to reflect the latest information and additional questions have been added.

        Register for Additional Roadshow Sessions

        • Session #2 – Thursday, December 18, 2025 from 9 AM to 10:30 AM HT
        • Session #3 – Sunday, January 11, 2026 from 2 PM to 3:30 PM HT

        If you have any questions or concerns, please contact your local leadership or email the SEA Domicile Negotiating Committee at sea@afahawaiian.org.

        Filed Under: AFA News Now, Council 43 HNL, Council 47 LAX/SEA (pmHA) Tagged With: Council 43, Council 47, HA SEA Domicile, pmHA

        Hawaiian Flight Attendant Seattle Domicile LOA Session #1 Roadshow Reminder

        November 30, 2025 13:00

        This message is for pre-merger Hawaiian Flight Attendants

        • The first session for the Seattle Domicile Letter of Agreement is scheduled for tomorrow, December 1, from 3 PM to 4:30 PM HT
        • All members in good standing should register for the webinar using a non-company email and review the SEA LOA Question and Answer prior to attending

        The Hawaiian Seattle Domicile Negotiating Committee is hosting the first of three virtual roadshows tomorrow to share information about the Seattle Domicile Letter of Agreement (SEA LOA).

        • Session #1 – Monday, December 1, 2025 from 3 PM to 4:30 PM HT

        Webinar Reminders

        • All Members in good standing are welcome to join.
        • We encourage you to log on to the webinar early to verify your credentials and to ensure a prompt start
        • To register, please use a non-company email. Registration will close at the start of the webinar.
        • You may attend multiple sessions. Just fill out a separate registration form for each session you plan to join.
        • After you register, you’ll get a confirmation email with your unique link. Please keep this link private.

        SEA LOA Resources

        Please look over the SEA LOA Question and Answer section before the webinar. To help everyone get the most up-to-date information, we may not answer questions that have already been answered. You may also submit your questions in advance using the registration form.

        Register for Additional Sessions

        • Session #2 – Thursday, December 18, 2025 from 9 AM to 10:30 AM HT
        • Session #3 – Sunday, January 11, 2026 from 2 PM to 3:30 PM HT

        If you have any questions or concerns, please contact your local leadership or email the SEA Domicile Negotiating Committee at sea@afahawaiian.org.

        Filed Under: AFA News Now, AS/HA Merger, Council 43 HNL, Council 47 LAX/SEA (pmHA) Tagged With: Council 43, Council 47, HA SEA Domicile, pmHA

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