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        SEA Roadshow Q&A – Morning Session 12/10/14

        December 10, 2014 11:46

        SEA Roadshow Q&A 12/10/14

         

        Section 3 – Scope

        Q: If there were irregular ops can managers/supervisor bypass the provisions?

        A: No, there is no exception for irregular operations

         

        Q: Does AFA International advocate for managers/supervisors to work our union jobs?

        A: Don’t believe we advocate for this provision, however many carriers have similar provisions allowing managers/supervisors to perform our duties and cover a cancellation. In our afternoon session we will have Sara Nelson joining us, she is our AFA International President and could weigh in on this question.

         

        Q: Will we be training managers/supervisors?

        A: They are trained and FAA certified. There may be familiarization training but they do know what is expected.

         

        Q: If there is safety related issue am I able to write up the manger/supervisor?

        A: Yes

         

        Q: Could Brad Tilden sit on a FA jumpseat?

        A: On non revenue flights they are able to sit in jumpseat. There is ability for certain individuals to sit in the flight deck.

         

        Q: Will we know ahead of time that managers/supervisors will be on our flight?

        A: There is no contractual requirement, but commitment to day prior.

         

        Q: If I feel like I want to comp something will I have to explain that to that manager/supervisor?

        A: You may, but if you follow the comp guideline you should be good.

         

        Section 8 – Hours of Service

         

        Q: If changing the 15 minute debrief due to extending past the time is it all or nothing?

        A: Yes. Either all FAs receive the adjustment or none.

         

        Q: Do you see this 15 minute debrief as coming back on them?

        A: They will pay a scheduler to sit and answer the phone to adjust. Don’t see as a huge issue.

         

        Q: If I block in 20 minutes early, then have a 15 minute debrief would I need have time adjusted if extended past 15 minutes?

        A: Yes, you would need to have your time adjusted. 15 minute debrief is based on parking brake set and L1 door open. If you extend past your debrief call and have time adjusted.

         

        Q: Is management concerned they will have less pre-boarders?

        A: Crew Scheduling is concerned as the 15 minute debrief is limiting. However the limitation on number of airport standby reserves on duty at the airport was removed. There is still a personal limitation on number of APSB per month which is a separate provision.

         

        Section 9 – Junior Availability and Premium OT

         

        Q: If I am JA’d within the 15 minutes but subsequently my debrief is extended do I still have to accept JA?

        A: Yes. As long as notified prior to scheduled debrief ending.

         

        Q: Any discussion about having more reserves?

        A: Absolutely. There is no contractual provision requiring a specific reserve threshold. We were not successful in reaching agreement on such provision.

         

        Q: Was it your feeling at the table that management is going to use JA as a staffing tool?

        A: No management is not going to use as a staffing tool. The pay penalty is significant at 2.5X.

         

        Q: Longevity Premium is paid on JA and Premium OT?

        A: Correct. Everything except vacation and sick leave.

         

        Q: Can I be JA’d into my vacation?

        A: No. Same as today.

         

        Section 10 – Scheduling

         

        Q: When Scheduling calls and I was offered I rejected first day, accepted another day, am I waiving for entire month?

        A: No, each time waiver is required.

         

        Q: How will this affect LAX pairings?

        A: There will be changes to pairings, however there are protections such as multiday sequence minimums, average duty period guarantees, sit pay premium. There will be protections for inefficient pairings.

         

        Q: Can people just transfer and bump me down?

        A: There would need to be openings in the domicile for FAs to transfer in.

         

        Q: Since this is defined, my concern is wanting to adjust return to base 4k using a sideletter?

        A: No difference. This MEC does not put side letters without membership input or ratification. Attempting to change a duty day or other work rules would require membership to vote to make any changes to the agreement.

         

        Q: I am being asked to accept a 4k reassignment due to my trip being changed, but it is only trip Crew Scheduling has available am I pay protected if I don’t accept the 4k?

        A: Yes, you would be pay protected.

         

        Section 11 – Reserve

         

        Q: I won’t get in trouble if I check my email after 15 minute debrief?

        A: Correct. There is reasonable amount of time allowed in order to check email.

         

        Q: If I preference my ER day does that count towards the 1 of 2 conversions?

        A: Yes.

         

        Q: If you pick up reserve as a lineholder are you entitled to all reserve premiums, A pay, etc?

        A: Yes. You are entitled to the premiums.

         

        Q: If I meet my maximum reserve threshold will I not be able to assign above my guarantee?

        A: You are not able to exceed your guarantee by more than 10TFP.

         

        Q: If I am a lineholder and I have 3 reserve days what is maximum tfp amount I can self assign?

        A: 25 TFP for a 3 day. 15 TFP, plus 10 above the guarantee.

         

        Q: Is there a penalty for assigning LFTA out of order?

        A: There is no financial penalty.

        Section 12 – Exchange of Sequences

        Q: The thresholds can change during the trial?

        A: Yes. By mutual agreement. This is to keep the trial open and adjust the numbers.

         

        Q: What is the restriction with OT?

        A: 40 TFP net give away.

         

        Q: If the day is limited is there ability for a 4 day in OT could I trade two 2 days?

        A: No, under the trial it is day for day or greater. There is possibility they will program

         

        Section 14 – Vacation

         

        Q: If this does pass when will 480 requirements take effect?

        A: The new calculation will start January 1st, 2015 for 2016 benefits.

         

        Q: On holiday pay if I fly 8 TFP trip do I receive 16 TFP towards my 480?

        A: No. Just like today. On a holiday your TFP step rate is paid at double, but you still receive 8 TFP credit towards the 480.

         

        Q: If bidding for PTO is that 1st or 2nd round of vacation bidding?

        A: 2nd round.

         

        Q: When will all minimum pay rules be in effect?

        A: No later than May 1st, 2015. However in the mean time you are able to submit activity claim for sit pay premium.

         

        Q: If TA passes will Jan 1, 2015 and subsequent Jan 1 be paid as a holiday?

        A: Yes.

         

        Section 16 – Sick Leave and On the Job Injury

         

        Q: Can I self assign on a sick leave makeup reserve day?

        A: Yes.

         

        Q: Will points be taken away for sick leave makeup?

        A: No, it is not a point mitigation system, rather sick leave restoration.

        Section 21 – Compensation

         

        Q: If I am off on medical do I still get signing bonus?

        A: Yes

         

        Q: When will pay rates become effective?

        A: December 17th.

         

        Q: Let’s say I take all 4 weeks of vacation in a quarter and only flew my awarded line what would happen in regards to the QPP?

        A: You wouldn’t make the QPP payout.

         

        Q: If I have vacation in the entire month how will my QPP be determined?

        A: Your personal PBS award per month over the quarter. PBS sets the bar. Everyone’s bar is different.

         

        Section 22 – Expenses

         

        No questions

         

        Section 23 – Insurance

         

        Q: Is the 12 month look back rolling?

        A: No.

         

        Section 27 – General Association

         

        No questions

         

        Section 32 – Attendance Policy

         

        Q: If you call in Intermittent FMLA will you receive record improvement?

        A: Under current agreement no, under TA2 you could qualify.

         

        Random:

         

        Q: Was the crew meal cost incorporated into the per diem?

        A: Yes. We took the cost of crew meals, divided by overall time away from base which equaled around $0.22, we rounded up to $0.25.

         

        Q: Is there longevity hold up if I don’t meet the 480?

        A: Not in TA2, you are brought to your rate based on hire date.

         

        Q: What are items the company is very adamant about?

        A: Management flying, benefits, top of scale pay. 4k and 15 minute debrief contingent on rates, length of scale.

         

        Q: Was 401k discussed?

        A: Yes. We were not able to get a more favorable application.

         

        Q: If this is voted down do we start from TA2?

        A: There are no guarantees. Every section is open for negotiation. We do not anticipate a quick turn around.

         

        Q: What will happen to LAX if this is voted in?

        A: There is never a guarantee to keep any domicile. However, executive management has stated at this time there is no downsizing or closing of LAX. There was a time when even PDX was a domicile then converted to co-domicile and is now back to a domicile.

        Filed Under: Contract 2014 Negotiations Blog, Latest News, Negotiations

        Get the Facts – NO quarterly flying requirement

        December 10, 2014 10:03

        Did you know that there is absolutely NO quarterly flying requirement in meeting the yearly 480 requirement? Just as to today, you DO NOT have to fly any set amount in a quarter when working to achieve the yearly flying requirement of 480 for benefits. There is no flying requirement to retain employment.

        Filed Under: Contract 2014 Negotiations Blog, Latest News, Negotiations

        ANC Roadshow Q&A – Afternoon Session 12/9/14

        December 10, 2014 08:33

        ANC Roadshow 12/9/14 Q&A Afternoon Session

         

        Section 3 – Scope

        Q: The 2% of managers, is that the cap?

        A: Yes.

         

        Section 8 – Hours of Service

        Q: How is block-in determined?

        A: The parking brake must be set and the first aircraft door being opened to officially be “blocked in”.

         

        Q: Will all mid-con layovers go away?

        A: No, there will still be layovers. Planes will still need to RON.

         

        Q: Will we lose ANC-ORD layover?

        A: This is not a contractual change. Pairings can always rotate to other bases. There are no guarantees.

         

        Section 9 – Junior Available

        Q: So Crew Scheduling won’t call us at home anymore?

        A: Correct.

         

        Q: If you prefer off a day in PBS, can Crew Scheduling fly you on that day off?

        A: Yes. However, if you are awarded a trip on the day you prefer off and drop the trip and do not replace flying on that day then you cannot be Junior Assigned.

         

        Q: How early can you be Junior Assigned?

        A: The day prior to the Junior Assignment.

         

        Q: If I am contacted for a Junior Assignment prior to my 15 minute debrief ending am I required to accept the assignment?

        A: Yes.

         

        Section – Scheduling

        Q: In 5 years, could 4k sequences be as high as 50% pairings?

        A: No, there would have to be enough cities that qualify with the very specific parameters.

         

        Q: Could Hawaii ever qualify for a 4k trip?

        A: No, Hawaii does not qualify as it is more than 2000 miles each way.

         

        Q: Will the company consult AFA adding new cities that would qualify for 4k?

        A: There is no language to support a requirement to consult AFA, However, AFA will be aware of new potential 4k routes.

         

        Q: Can I ASAP on a 4k because I am fatigued?

        A: You can however it would have to be accepted based on the ASAP criteria and could be determined on a case by case basis.

         

        Q: At what time could a Reserve be forced a 4k pairing?

        A: 3 hours prior to departure (2 hours prior to check-in).

         

        Q: If a Lineholder is offered and accepts a 4k sequence will they be paid the 1.5x premium?

        A: No, the 4k 1.5x premium is for Reserves who are forced to fly the sequence.

         

        Section 11 – Reserve

        Q: What is self-assigning?

        A: If you are on reserve you will be able to self-assign trips from Open Time or Airport Standby. Self-assigned trips must be exact match to your block days and call type.

         

        Q: Will Airport Standby also be in Open Time?

        A: Yes, however you can only pick up within your call type. You can also trade Airport Standby assignment with another Reserve on Airport Standby. Reserves can also trade trips once assigned.

         

        Q: Is the go around credit improved for Reserves?

        A: Yes, it is now the same application as for a Lineholder.

         

        Section 12 – Open Time

        Q: What is the difference between a TO vs TX code?

        A: TO you can do a straight drop into Open Time and TX is a trade of day for day or greater.

         

        Q: Are the TO/CP/SL/CB/UB etc… codes able to be seen on the trips?

        A: Yes.

         

        Section 14 – Vacation

        Q: Does vacation count toward my 480 credit for my vacation accrual?

        A: No.

         

        Section 16 – Sick Leave

        Q: Does Sick Leave Reserve Make Up reduce my points?

        A: No. This is not a point reduction tool. It is a rapid accrual system to restore your sick bank.

         

        Q: Can you still call in well and do I have to sit reserve?

        A: Yes, you can still call in well. No you are not required to accept a reserve block. There is no change to this provision.

         

        Section 21 – Compensation

        Q: Why did we go with a signing bonus vs retro?

        A: We tried for retro but were unable to achieve it.

         

        Q: If I work a turn worth 4 TFP will I get paid 4 TFP or 5 TFP for the trip?

        A: With Minimum Pay Rules, (ADPG) you will be credited 5 TFP if flown, 4 TFP if you call in sick.

         

        Q: How many years can they go back on the 480 look-back?

        A: They need to go back as far as necessary to get a full 12 months even if it means looking back several years.

         

        Section 32 – Attendance

        Q: If I take a staffing leave in January will it preclude me from record improvement?

        A: No, leaves will no longer automatically preclude you from record improvement.

         

        Q: Can I now use my quarterly point reduction prior to using bank points?

        A: Yes. In today’s application bank points are automatically deducted and if you use your quarterly point reduction your bank points deducted and not restored. With TA2 you gain bank point protections and can now use your quarterly point reduction prior to using your bank points.

         

         

         

        Filed Under: Contract 2014 Negotiations Blog, Latest News, Negotiations

        ANC Roadshow Q&A – Morning Session 12/9/14

        December 9, 2014 23:43

        ANC Roadshow 12/9/14 Q&A Morning Session

        Section 3 – Scope
        Q: Do managers get to choose their flights?
        A: Ron Calvin will be choosing the flights.

        Q: How much advance notice will we have for management flying?
        A: The day prior however there is no contractual requirement to give notice.

        Q: Prior to management flying to prevent a cancellation do they have to JA and go through all reserves first?
        A: Yes, in the sense that in order for a flight to be in jeopardy of cancellation there can be no Flight Attendants available to take the flight. Management cannot fly simply to minimize JA or retain Reserves.

        Section 8 – Hours of Service
        Q: Will all our mid con layovers become turns?
        A: No, there will still be layovers. Planes will still need to RON.

        Q: If a CSA meets the plane and tells you to pre-board is that considered sufficient notification?
        A: Yes, however the pre-board must start within your 15 minute debrief period.

        Q: With the 15 minute debrief would ANC get the PDX turn back?
        A: Yes, it would be possible with the new debrief time.

        Section 9 – Junior Available
        Q: If I get rid of my 4 day trip am I protected for the whole 4 days?
        A: Yes, as long as you don’t replace flying on those days you have immunity.

        Q: If Crew Scheduling calls you on a day that you drop do you have to accept the assignment?
        A: CS can’t call to JA you on a day that you dropped.

        Q: Can they JA a reserve?
        A: No, Reserves cannot be Junior Assigned.

        Section 10 – Scheduling
        Q: Do the 10% open up more flying to the other bases?
        A: Yes, it would potentially lock flying into other bases.

        Q: What flying is considered to be the “5%” of pairings? How is the 5% calculated?
        A: The 5% is of overall system wide pairings.

        Q. Will all of our long turns go away – now we have 100% of those and now it looks like they will go to SEA and PDX.
        A. No – one cannot think of it as the turns live in one base – the flying moves around the system. The :15 debrief creates the ability for mid-con turns to be available year-round.

        Q: How did the 90%-10% split happen?
        A: The company wanted all flying to be in one base. The NC negotiated a portion of the flying to be mixed and distributed into all bases to make it fair and equitable.

        Section 11 – Reserve
        Q: As a Lineholder if I pick up one reserve day from a Reserve would I be an ER?
        A: Yes, either PM or AM you would be converted to ER.

        Q: As a Lineholder picking up a reserve day would I automatically go to the top of the list?
        A: As a Lineholder you are automatically put to the bottom of the LTFA.

        Section 12 – Open Time
        Q: If the day is open can I drop or trade a trip?
        A: Yes, as long as there is a slot open the day will be considered open. When all slots are full the day will change to “limited”.

        Q: When will Open Time go into effect if the TA passes?
        A: August 2015

        Q: How will we know if a trip in OT is being offered at a premium by crew scheduling?
        A: Premium OT trips will have a different specific code attached so FAs will be able to identify Premium OT trips.

        Section 14 – Vacation
        Q: Do you have to work the full 480 to receive your full vacation credit toward your health benefits?
        A: The 480 for insurance is a soft 480 credit. Your full annual YOS vacation accrual counts toward your 480 to retain health insurance.

        Section 16 – Sick Leave
        Q: If you didn’t have enough SL to cover your trip and do Sick Leave RS Make Up, how much sick leave gets restored to your bank?
        A: Only the amount drawn from your SL bank will be restored at a 1:1 rate. Any additional Worked TFP would be credited at a 10:1 The FA would be paid for the excess Worked TFP, including the RS premium.

        Q: Who does Sick Leave Reserve Make Up help? Why would anyone want to do that?
        A: Everyone. Especially those wanting to maintain a particular amount of SL in their bank. If a FA is returning from leave or a new hire it can be hard to build up your SL bank. Sick Leave RS Make Up is a rapid accrual at 1:1 vs the standard accrual of 10:1.

        Letter of Agreement #6 – Implementation
        Q: When will the New Year’s Day holiday pay go into effect?
        A: January 1, 2015

        Filed Under: Contract 2014 Negotiations Blog, Latest News, Negotiations

        Q&A: Is there any change to calling in well from current book?

        December 8, 2014 19:08

        No.  All provision are the same as current book.  If a FA calls in well, Crew Scheduling may offer the following options and if the FA agrees, they may:

        1. Pick up their sequence at a SIP

        2. Receive a Like Sequence

        3. Sit Reserve

        4. Remain off duty for the remainder of the sequence and be paid SL.

        However, the difference is that under TA2, if you elect to sit Reserve, a line holder will by default be the last to fly within their call type and days of availability.  If the line holder would prefer they can opt in to the LTFA list.

         

        Filed Under: Contract 2014 Negotiations Blog, Latest News, Negotiations

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