
Quarterly Meeting Minutes
Monday, September 22, 2014
10 AM – 2 PM
Room 227, Alaska Airlines Flight Operations Building, Seattle
Representing the Flight Attendants of Alaska + Hawaiian

Monday, September 22, 2014
10 AM – 2 PM
Room 227, Alaska Airlines Flight Operations Building, Seattle
Sure. We are proposing that if a Flight Attendant trades away – with Open Time or another Flight Attendant – a trip and does not replace flying on those days, then any days on which s/he does not replace flying (i.e. pick up new flying) would be immune from JA. Today, a Flight Attendant could trade around her/his entire line and be immune from JA for the entire month (extreme case) even though s/he was flying a full schedule. This happens today and it sometimes forces JA very senior.
In the survey, members were very adamant that immunity from JA should still remain for days on which a trip was dropped for a special event or to extend vacation/ holiday time off.
Based on feedback, we are reviewing ER days vs conversions in the overall context of the TA. We have already added discussion of ER days/ conversions back onto the agenda for the next meeting. Additionally, we have secured the reinstatement of the Reserve Premium from management.
That is pretty much exactly what was negotiated in TA1. The OT system was completely transparent with all open/closed days, reserve thresholds, reserve usage, etc. listed. For reserves, if the reserve trade board listed the day open, you would be allowed to trade – through automation. No more submitting a request and waiting for a response. We have proposed retaining that system from TA1 and so far, management is on the same page.
In the survey, Flight Attendants overwhelmingly conveyed that reverting to the current OT system would be preferential to changing to another system that they did not know. However, it is important to remember that if either party cancels the OT ‘Test’ system, AFA and management would immediately sit down to negotiate a new system – using all the information from the ‘Test.’ During that time, the OT system would revert to the current practice. Once a new system is negotiated, that new procedure would be submitted for membership vote and put in place once ratified. So the “going back to current practice” part would only last as long as negotiations for new system- which FAs would vote on.
The actual results of negotiations surveys done by AFA are never published to the membership. In 2011, before the opening proposals were written, the Negotiating Committee sent out the negotiations survey to all members. Those results were used by the Committee to learn your bargaining objectives and priorities. If AFA had published those results, then management would know which provision was more important than another and that would be detrimental to our bargaining strategy.
The Hart Survey was basically another negotiations survey, one scientifically done with a much lower margin of error by a very highly regarded professional polling company. Because we do not want management to know your exact priorities in negotiations, we will not be publishing those results either.
The opener was created using the priorities in the Hart Survey. When a tentative agreement fails to ratify, the subsequent negotiations for a new agreement focus on ‘fixing’ the provisions which were not acceptable. It is not about going back to the beginning and starting all over.
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